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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
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Posted - 2015.10.02 13:51:21 -
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David Asanari wrote: I'm pretty sure that wasn't the original idea behind this feature.
That people would use it as they saw fit?
You bet it was. It was intended to do only one thing. Remove the loathsome presence of Concord in highsec between two parties for a fee.
It does precisely that.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14558
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Posted - 2015.10.02 14:10:57 -
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David Asanari wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:David Asanari wrote: I'm pretty sure that wasn't the original idea behind this feature.
That people would use it as they saw fit? You bet it was. It was intended to do only one thing. Remove the loathsome presence of Concord in highsec between two parties for a fee. It does precisely that. No, that's not what it does. In the abusive cases it removes the presence of Concord entirely for the corp/alliance.
It's intended to do that. That's the whole point of the mechanic, to get rid of Concord.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14558
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Posted - 2015.10.02 14:40:50 -
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David Asanari wrote: I have the same right to request a change in a feature that's bothering me, lie the people who were bothered by drones and Ishtar, for example and asked for a nerf. I didn't like it, but it was nerfed for the balance of the game.
The Ishtar was a legitimate issue. Yours is not.
You have no right to do anything.
Quote: It's being abused the same way that gankers abuse the fact that CONCORD doesn't pod, for example.
And of course like all carebears you're anti PvP in general.
Go play Star Trek Online or something else that doesn't have PvP. EVE is a PvP game, and that means PvP belongs anywhere and everywhere.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14560
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Posted - 2015.10.02 15:10:41 -
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David Asanari wrote:Using the e-mail analogy, this thread is basically a group of "spammers" disliking the idea of restrictions on spam.
Actually, it's a group of people who don't want you to use a false flag to justify censoring us.
Quote: Hi-sec wardeccers and CODE gankers are the ultimate carebears of this game.
No, that's still you, who want all your risk taken away because you can't be asked to be at your keyboard.
Quote: These activities have as much to do with PvP as a high school shooting.
Reported. That's too far, even for carebear slime like you.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14560
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Posted - 2015.10.02 15:19:50 -
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David Asanari wrote: You on the other hand called me a "slime". I'd say that's an insult.
I'd say that's a fact.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14564
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Posted - 2015.10.02 16:48:08 -
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David Asanari wrote: Analogy is something a 7th grader should be able to understand.
I agree, which makes it all the more funny how you keep misusing the concept.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14564
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Posted - 2015.10.02 16:55:41 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote: Don't listen to Vimsy.
Conversely, I would advise every not to listen to you, since you've spent pretty much your whole posting history crying about how PvP doesn't have oppressive handcuffs and punitive mechanics attached to every aspect of it.
You're a disgrace.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14565
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Posted - 2015.10.02 19:38:55 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote: Are you a vimsy alt?
No, I'm the logi alt of an old nullsec line member/awoxer.
And if you want to bring this to ad homs, linking your post history is all I'd have to do.
Serendipity Lost wrote: I'd just like to see it balanced.
Balance is the last thing people like you want.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14565
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Posted - 2015.10.02 19:45:24 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote: Quit the rhetoric. I don't want it nerfed.
Quit the lies. Yes, you do.
Your entire post history is full of begging for nerfs. You've been on your knees for CCP to nerf PvP so many times you're on your third set of patches for your jeans.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14567
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Posted - 2015.10.02 20:11:07 -
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David Asanari wrote:It's the killboard addicts trying to maximize the number of frigs/industrials killed by rendering the hi-sec security restrictions useless that are the problem.
That's not a problem. In fact it's an intended use of the mechanic.
Wars are intended to be used for any reason, or none at all. That's what player freedom is, that's what makes it a sandbox. All you're doing is demonstrating that you are playing the wrong game.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14569
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Posted - 2015.10.02 20:24:27 -
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David Asanari wrote: I'm playing the game I choose to play and it's not your business how I choose to play it.
Please, justify more.
Right now, you aren't playing the game. You're trying to change the rules to favor yourself.
Quote: I never asked for your advice.
Nor did I give any. If I were, it would be to uninstall EVE Online, and go play something more suited to your temperament, like Farmville, NeoPets, Hello Kitty Online, or something else where no one is ever allowed to lose so they don't feel bad.
Quote: This is a public place for discussing suggestions. You are not suggesting anything besides "let's leave as it is".
No, I'm here discussing your terrible, self serving, awful suggestion.
Quote: Deal with it or choose a different game to play.
This won't change. As you put it, deal with it, or choose a different game to play. You don't belong here anyway, you've made that pretty clear by now.
Also, I find it pretty damning of carebears in general that you people can't even wait a year after the deletion of awoxing to start clamoring for wars and ganking to go away too. You're so transparent in your disgusting goals that it's almost embarrassing.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14569
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Posted - 2015.10.02 20:30:14 -
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David Asanari wrote: Being wardecced for 3 weeks in a row by 3 different alliances makes it impossible to play.
And of course, we come to the genesis of his self serving nerfs thinly hidden as a "suggestion".
3 weeks, and his little carebear corp hasn't figured out how to watch local yet.
Quote: Losing a ship higher than a cruiser means losing half the assets for some of us. And no we cannot stand up and fight against T3+command ship+inty gangs simply because we don't have the ships and large enough fleet to do it.
I wonder if he's going to figure out that he doesn't belong in a player corp?
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14569
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Posted - 2015.10.02 20:45:06 -
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David Asanari wrote: And you don't want them changed because they favor you.
They don't favor me at all. Wars grant a huge mechanical advantage to the defender, nevermind being basically voluntary.
Quote: I don't know any of these games.
You should get more familiar with Farmville. It's what you carebears want out of EVE, anyway. Push a few button sequences and get virtual carrot, repeat until die of boredom.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14569
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Posted - 2015.10.02 20:46:57 -
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Oh, and I love the part where you claimed that disagreeing with you is "abusing" you. First of all, if you are so emotionally fragile as to actually believe that, then my advice is to quit this game and never look back.
Secondly, if you are so intellectually dishonest as to try and make the claim that disagreement equates to abuse, then you're not only a fool but also a hypocrite, since you're the one disagreeing with how the game is supposed to be played in the first place.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14572
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Posted - 2015.10.02 21:01:13 -
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Harvey James wrote:it was better when the limitation was 3 decs, now any new corp just gets insta decced by the main culprits and that new corp ends up being disbanded before it ever got going which in the long term just reduces potential targets that could have fought back and gave you a decent fight.
If that's true, then why do I see all these corps running around highsec with basically no war histories? Hell, I've been sitting in Amarr for hours, scanning people for fun, and so very few deaths.
Sounds like you're just bullshitting to me.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14572
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Posted - 2015.10.02 21:07:20 -
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David Asanari wrote: You called me names
And you claimed that hundreds of players are abusing game mechanics, something that is factually not happening.
You're sitting here calling people from a dozen or more alliances names, and you get mad when I call you carebear slime? You can dish it out, but you can't take it?
Cry more.
Forgive me if I don't believe you. Especially not since you made this tear filled thread after you got decced for three measly weeks. Some of us have lived under a dec for six months or more, and ran missions the whole time.
Quote: I also highly doubt you behave the same IRL hence the need for the online aggression.
Funny part about that overused trope? It's not really true at all. It's mostly just people like you posturing, trying to make a callout against people whom you have no clue about.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14573
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Posted - 2015.10.02 21:18:37 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I can confirm that karrous is as obnoxious on comms as his posting would imply.
In a charming sort of way.
I have also been told I am in fact considerably drunker on comms than I my posting would imply.
In a hilariously incompetent sort of way.
Also +1 for the use of "ninny" , I haven't heard that said in a long time...spat tea on myself giggling at it.
I am indeed the life of the party. And you type considerably well for someone whose BAH hasn't been below 0.1 in a couple of months, not that I'm one to judge lately. :P
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14594
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Posted - 2015.10.03 20:54:25 -
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Donnachadh wrote: Are you willing to give up some of your freedoms to WD whoever, whenever for whatever reason in exchange for a reduction in the dodge options? How about a limit on active WD, are you willing to accept a limit again in exchange for a reduction in dodge options?
No. Wars are weak enough as it is, they need buffed.
And you especially don't get to strip away yet more player freedom to justify finally removing a very literal exploit.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14596
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Posted - 2015.10.04 02:47:50 -
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Donnachadh wrote: If dec dodging in any or all of it's forms is an "exploit" how come CCP continues to allow it?
Carebear tears. It was previously classified as the exploit it is, until enough tears flipped that over. That's fairly well known, the carebear penchant for denial notwithstanding.
Quote: If CCP allows it to happen is it an exploit or just something that bothers you?
It consists of screwing around with the corp creation mechanics to deliberately bypass the surrender function, the stated and intended method of dissolving wardecs, and it does so with much, much less cost than the mechanic it bypasses.
Textbook exploit, regardless of my opinion on the matter, or yours.
Quote: If we accept that war decs are balanced in the eyes of CCP as they currently are then in order to gain something you want out of the situation you MUST be willing to give something back that the other side wants that is how you keep things in balance.
And I reject that premise. Wardecs right now are too weak, they need buffed. Not only this, but highsec non consensual PvP, meaning both ganking and wars, has recently been determined to be THE biggest factor(s) in positive player retention.
This mandates buffing wars, ganking, or preferably both, to incentivize, encourage, and proliferate PvP content in highsec. Yes, this will result in a net loss of safety for the kind of people who would rather not bother playing the game at their keyboards. And they'll just have to suck it up, like they've told the highsec PvP playstyle to suck it up for the past decade.
What's good for the goose is finally about to be good for the gander, once CCP grows the spine to take a sledgehammer to the sacred cows of Concord and NPC corps. And just like those mealy mouthed fucks have been falsely claiming for the past decade, we'll tell them "the game will be better off." Except this time, it will actually be true, not just a lie they tell themselves to justify squelching player freedom in a sandbox game.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
14719
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Posted - 2015.10.12 11:46:46 -
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He has his head up his ass.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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